User talk:64.40.54.169

Wmflabs

Hi again. I'm sorry for not replying yet, but I'm trying to figure out all the details. PiRSquared17 (talk) 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, πr². I'm happy to have your help.

I finally realized why I always see you around the other projects. It's because your always involved in the technical side of things. On a related note, do you know how the Interwiki map stuff works from a technical standpoint? I remember when wmfblog: was added to the map. It took about 3 months after the addition before that link would work for me. I figured it had something to do with me being an IP. So I was wondering how the map worked. So when I click toollabs: it brings me to this page. If it's like the wmfblog: link, it'll probably work for me in about 3 months or so. Do you know the technical side of the Interwiki map? Thanks again for all your help. 64.40.54.169 03:29, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

• I just found some stuff at mw:Extension:InterwikiMap, so I'm reading through it. 64.40.54.169 03:45, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict!) Hello. I have indeed been very active with technical things recently. Maybe because of the huge VE/ULS reaction, as I think I've already mentioned. Here is a comment, taken from the publicly logged (see [23:00:12]) IRC channel #mediawiki on freenode today, when someone (User:Bawolff) was explaining the details to me:

<bawolff> PiRSquared: We have a maintenance script (in the WikimediaMaintiance extension repo) that generates interwikis for all wikimedia projects and different language codes, and adds the m:Interwiki_map on top of that, to make a single cdb file, that is used for all Wikimedia sites. (The cdb file supports different wiki families having different interwikis for different language codes)

There's more information on the top of IWM and its talk page, and on w:WP:IW (which is very similar to Help:Interwiki linking here). Maybe this is the specific maintenance script, but I'm not sure. According to the header of IWM, it is updated "fairly regularly (usually once in several months)". I personally wouldn't expect an update right now anyway, asa most of the (staff) devs are in Hong Kong, but it might be on a cron job. As for wmflabs specifically, I think that a bug similar to bugzilla:24748 would apply in this case. I was thinking of using my wmflabs account to host a redirector to prevent adding all those wmflabs subdomains, but most are very obscure anyway. PiRSquared17 (talk) 04:04, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

And, P.S. (after edit conflict): mw:Extension:InterwikiMap is not used on Wikimedia. If you want the details you can read the log link above, starting around 23:00, or mw:Manual:Interwikis.

TL;DR - a maintenance script updates it every few months

Aaaah. Thanks. I don't know any of the technical stuff, which is why I try to follow it (i.e. so I can learn). I spent the last hour reading through all the extension stuff and some of the API stuff too. :/ Oh well.

I guess I should just read the top of the pages I keep skipping over. My mistake. Thanks for the update. 64.40.54.169 04:56, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

(adding) Lots of great links. I've been reading through them and learning some good stuff. Thanks.

re: the Interwiki map, toollabs: is the big one with the migration from the toolserver to WMFLabs. I'm not sure how important the other ones are. Maybe dashboard.wmflabs.org as I've seen that one a few times but the others are so obscure that I'm not sure they'd be used by anybody. So I'm not sure if setting up a redirector would be worth the trouble. The reason I like the interwiki links is because I get the CAPTCHA for URLs because I'm an IP, so the interwikis save me from that. Thanks again for all the help. 64.40.54.169 06:06, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

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