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Picksve@zh.wikipedia

Done, For Picksve, 反赤共復民國, Topsun888, Choasppp, Cynthia liu123 the CU evidence is inconclusive. All other accounts confirmed. No other unlocked sleeping account. Linedwell [talk] 19:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks User:Linedwell. Reported back.--Cohaf (talk) 19:21, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
@Cohaf: No problem. I checked but I can't link it to any of the previous accounts. Regards, Linedwell [talk] 19:32, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
@Linedwell:. Thanks much!--Cohaf (talk) 19:33, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

珍珠鮮奶茶@zh.wikipedia

TLPG@en.wikiquote

Not done Do not see any reason for checkuser. If an account misbehave, just block it. Ruslik (talk) 19:22, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Umm...Ruslik...Is there some reason to perform a CU other than someone abusively and obviously using multiple accounts? GMGtalk 01:55, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Haled R@ro.wikipedia

Not done - no check needed here. That account hasn't edited in nearly a month, so checking it would not assist in preventing any abuse. – Ajraddatz (talk) 16:07, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

MTR 558391@zh.wikipedia

  • Comment Comment. No local consensus to check, they have clear editorial disputes with the rest and send the 2 to zhwiki AIV but was declined and ask to engage in village pump discussion. However, they don't wish to engage in meaningful discussion at village pump and wow, here they are. Forumshopping indeed.--Cohaf (talk) 15:26, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment Comment No, we have local consensus to chack because some administrators in zh RFCUHAM agree to check due to their editing habit are similar and we are already discussed in the disscussion page. Iswjy1mcb (talk) 22:57, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Could a steward or meta admin close this request as premature and lacking consensus from local discussion? Alex Shih (talk) 09:38, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
    • @Alex Shih:. I would rather the closing reason being invalid, forum shopping, SNOW and disruptive checking. But yes, this needs to be closed by a steward as soon as possible. I'm not sure whether a meta admin could do it or not.--Cohaf (talk) 13:53, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Not done - checkuser isn't a weapon to use against the other side of a content dispute. – Ajraddatz (talk) 16:05, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Andyccr@zh.wikiversity

Well, even if it is not zhwiki, local discussion is always preferred since we are not expert on all the local projects and your fellow editors might be able to detect new CU target. Will do in few minutes after I am done with other stuff. — regards, Revi 12:43, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
I duck blocked all and had discussed this case with community members offline so I think we did all we could here. The rest really require a CU to ensure all is taken care off. If there is a range, do feel free to do a checkuser block. Thanks.--Cohaf (talk) 13:18, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Extended content
I'm starting doubting if we live on the same planet. Is "a few minutes" that long? (Joke→) You don't live on Mercury, do you? --Super Wang on zhwiki (Share your opinions) 12:37, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
"A few" is not few, man. Sæn 14:41, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
I konw. I think Revi meant "a lot of". --Super Wang on zhwiki (Share your opinions) 00:12, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Done - all three accounts are  Confirmed, no sleepers. – Ajraddatz (talk) 03:11, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
@Ajraddatz:. Thanks, is there any range to be blocked?.--Cohaf (talk) 03:15, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
At this stage I think the account blocks should cover it. There has been no further abuse since the request was filed. – Ajraddatz (talk) 03:59, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
@Ajraddatz: Thanks so much, appreciate your help for this. Will go through the accounts to see any SRG requests need to be filled or not. Thanks anyway --Cohaf (talk) 04:16, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

AryaHindu@hi.wikipedia

Done there is inconclusive technical evidence. Please use behavioural evidence to evaluate next steps. – Ajraddatz (talk) 03:58, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

MeritTim@zh.wikipedia

 Confirmed. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:42, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks MarcoAurelio. Reported Back.--Cohaf (talk) 18:48, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

X028887@zh.wikipedia

Done all accounts are  Confirmed, no sleepers found. – Ajraddatz (talk) 21:44, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

MTR 553891@zh.wikipedia

A few time@zh.wikipedia

Wikiobai@ro.wikipedia

Comment Anonymous Comment: Have you to look for further evidence? You should mean discussion here which has occured at appropiate section below: see Cross-wiki LTA vandal for understanding such situation. 86.126.100.159 16:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
@Pafsanias: Indeed for some purposes. Does really the accounts are related to BAICAN XXX? If they are same person, please provide additional consensus details as to convince stewards to assist check for others, otherwise this CU action wouldn't be so accurate for Community's privacy rule. 86.126.112.251 17:32, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
BAICAN_XXX is Stale. Wikiobai, Centurrion and ValydinDD are  Confirmed to be the same user. Additional socks are Thingorest, BAICAN X, Paltini, Successore and Grreuglisse. Ruslik (talk) 20:54, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you so much, Ruslik, for your useful information. However, the account BAICAN XXX has been blocked globally by MarcoAurelio on December 30, 2018. The last contributions seem to be those of December 28 (some other edits have been deleted afterwards). It is hard to believe that this account appears to be stale. Sorry to insist, but for us it is very important to clarify the relation between the main sockpuppeteer and the newer sockpuppets. --Pafsanias (talk) 23:23, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
The last edit on rowiki was on 14 April 2014. Ruslik (talk) 20:45, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
I see. You probably mean that you cannot carry out any crosswiki checking. Let me put it a little bit differently, then. BAICAN XXX is globally locked as of December 30, 2018, for crosswiki vandalism. Nevertheless, we have strong reasons to believe that the edits made by User:Thingorest on Wikidata belong to the same person, therefore representing an evasion of the global lock. Am I wrong? May I ask for a check concerning those two accounts (BAICAN XXX and Thingorest) on that particular Wikimedia project? Should I submit a separate request? Thank you once again for your kind help. --Pafsanias (talk) 21:26, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Comment Comment in Response to @Pafsanias: If it is possible, the meaning of reference results as per Ruslik0 might have been revealed. I think it not need second check. Please leave it in order to see benefits of both cross-wiki checking and such actions as well; also you known claim what you requested evidence than other option did you agree. It so never forget to mention that response advice. 86.122.247.207 17:39, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 Confirmed on roa-rupwiki. Ruslik (talk) 20:32, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you!--Mihai P. (talk) 21:15, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Chihhua,chuang@zh.wikipedia

@Alex Shih: Is it related to a long-term vandal? RadiX 01:02, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
@RadiX: I don't think that was suspected, but I wouldn't be surprised if the findings have some overlap with some zhwiki LTA? Pinging original filer Techyan for more input. Alex Shih (talk) 01:08, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Nope. It isn't a LTA case. Just a normal CU @RadiX and Alex Shih:.--Cohaf (talk) 03:21, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 It looks like a duck to me. I think that may not warrant a check. Should you have more information on this, please feel free to add it. RadiX 04:10, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
@RadiX:. Sorry I'm not into this case and now read the files, the filter, a local sysop feels it's duckable, I also concur with this assessment. The local sysop just wish to do a sleeper check. No comment on that per say.--Cohaf (talk) 04:30, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Ok then. I think they can just be blocked as vandalism only accounts. File another CU request in case a sleeper check is needed. Thanks, RadiX 02:11, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
@RadiX:Noted with thanks.--Cohaf (talk) 02:13, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Dragoon17cc@zh.wikipedia

Results
  •  Confirmed group I:
  • 暖城2016-02-06
  • Vengence2018
  • Lhrediedilcy
  • Expertiaman
  • Possible Possible group 2:
  • Warmercities
  • Hactlcpslaat
  • It is Possible Possible that group 1 and group 2 accounts and Dragoon17cc are related.

RadiX 00:33, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Ngjunkaiha@zh.wikipedia

Could you please explain what is the grounds for checking? Vandalism? (only two of the listed accounts are currently blocked) Is there any concerns about bad-faith editing? Is there evidence that they are related to a long-term abuser? RadiX 02:58, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Doing.... RadiX 02:20, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
From a technical point of view
  • Group 1: Sadakohahaha and Sadakohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:  Confirmed
  • Ngjunkaiha and Group 1: Likely Likely
  • ??pyphp?? and Group 1: Likely Likely
  • Ngjunkaiha and ??pyphp??: Possible Possible
  • 哈哈者 and others: Unrelated Unrelated

RadiX 03:34, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

MeritTim@zh.wikipedia

Discussion on Chinese Wikipedia is de facto must have (and cannot be None) unless you have a good reason not to. I don't see a good reason not to require it. Please discuss it on zh:WP:RFCUHAM and get back to us after then. — regards, Revi 19:16, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
@-revi:Isn't self requested CU not allowed no matter what, the requestor is basically requesting to do a CU on themselves, the 2nd account was indef blocked locally as a sock to the 1st account which is currently just serve 1 week sock block. --Cohaf (talk) 01:53, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
Global CheckUser policy doesn't explicitly prohibit this practice (It says "some wikis" might allow it), but I usually don't do this kind of self-requested checks, as the policy says, it is too prone to abuse. — regards, Revi 08:43, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
@-revi:According to zhwiki w:zh:WP:CUP

有一些计划允许编辑者自主提出对本账号的IP地址进行查核,例如在被他人指责使用傀儡时证明清白。但是在这种情况下,很多时候请求本身可能会是扰乱行为的一部分

Translated

Some projects allow users to carry out self checks to prove innocence if there are accused of socking, but normally this is seen as DE

. 2 points, you are the steward so you decide whether is this disruption or not, and can you give us your assessment. 2nd, as given in the link below, the 2 accounts are confirmed in a CU earlier this month by MarcoAurelio. Do we have to continue this? Thanks much! Best Regards,--Cohaf (talk) 09:14, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
NOTE: SRCU is not a place to investigate editors' behavioral data: SRCU is strictly for requesting (and delivering) CheckUser data. — regards, Revi 21:43, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
With ^ and Cohaf's discovery of prior case, declining. — regards, Revi 21:43, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Febydhani Pribadi@ms.wikipedia

Not doing check right now but  No comment with respect to IP address(es). Please note that checks cannot be run on an IP address under the CheckUser policy. — regards, Revi 10:13, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
@-revi: Maybe you can check on the registered account listed? CyberTroopers (talk) 22:20, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
Doing... for registered accounts only --Alaa :)..! 13:21, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Completed..

  •  Confirmed Febydhani Pribadi, Rheynapril, Egawijaya, Sariningrum
  • Unrelated Unrelated Arthadwhmd

--Alaa :)..! 13:29, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you User:علاء for the effort. CyberTroopers (talk) 09:31, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Ayratayrat@tt.wikipedia

Not done We do not associate specific IP addresses with user accounts. Ruslik (talk) 20:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

郭宜睿@zh.wikipedia

Completed..

  • Likely Likely 李典諺, Oval face
  • Possible Possible 李典諺, 郭宜睿

However, there's no enough data sample, so make your decision with behavioral data ---Alaa :)..! 21:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

3GFRIENDSNSD@zh.wikipedia

It's quite useless to include zhwiki pages/diffs into SRCU since we don't read Chinese. Just include summaries of the discussion. Doing... nonthless. — regards, Revi 12:12, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
This discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Yeah, we all know you don't speak Chinese. What a proud thing to say. --Super Wang on zhwiki (Share your opinions) 12:35, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Remember Meta:Urbanity. — regards, Revi 12:40, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
As you wish. --Super Wang on zhwiki (Share your opinions) 12:46, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Was doing a CU but not interested with zhwiki requests for the time being with ^. I'm not willing to do something if I am treated with sarcasm like this. Stewards: The data I gathered is available on CUwiki revision 29699 should you wish to complete the request. — regards, Revi 12:51, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
A warm tip: It's nonetheless, not nonthless. Correct your words at your own wish, PLEASE. --Super Wang on zhwiki (Share your opinions) 12:54, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
You're just being blatantly uncivil now. Vermont (talk) 12:55, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Then could you tell me why you made that conclusion please? Is just pointing out other's spelling mistake uncivil? --Super Wang on zhwiki (Share your opinions) 13:00, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
@Vermont:. This requires all parties to step away, de-escalate. Also noted the 1 day block for Super Wang by Marco. I think we really need to calm things down. -revi Still thanks for putting data on Cuwiki. I sincerely hope all can reconcile and end this. --Cohaf (talk) 13:20, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
There's no content or decision based disagreement. It was solved by a block. Vermont (talk) 13:48, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Note : so is it possible for any steward to help conclude this case, from cuwiki revision 29699 (yes, you see how uncivilised people ruin the community)--1233 | Questions?| This message is left by him at 07:16, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
@-revi: are you still on it? RadiX 17:40, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
@RadiX, I think I told you not (offwiki), but just in case. — regards, Revi 13:33, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Doing... --Alaa :)..! 21:11, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

 Confirmed (No sleepers) --Alaa :)..! 21:28, 28 January 2019 (UTC)