Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Log/2005 March
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The result was: deleted. — Rmhermen 14:39, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- This is almost certainly a copyright violation as it "quotes" the entire text of the song. We could shorten it to a couple quotes or, maybe better, put them on a Sesame Street page. Rmhermen 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - Currently copyvio. and put a shortened one on a Sesami Street page. --Aphaia 00:28, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. What Wikiquote is not #10: A place for posting the entire lyrics of songs. (Much as I might wish we could. ☺) — Jeff Q (talk) 03:42, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-Deleted. Rmhermen 14:39, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 03:56, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- VOTE CLOSED. Results: Deleted (3 Deletes, 1 Keep). — Jeff Q (talk) 03:56, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Nicely structured page, devoid of quotes. Wikiquote's Category:Electronic games has developed around quotes from specific games, so this is like having a page for "Library" instead of for individual books. — Jeff Q (talk) 05:12, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Rmhermen 15:16, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Nicely structured page. - 68.72.123.164 06:21, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Indeed, but its scope is too wide and doesn't follow our policy. --Aphaia 09:26, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: Delete. — Jeffq 03:55, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Roboaction put a vfd tag on this in December but may not have listed it here. It was blanked by its creator and never had any quotes. Rmhermen 01:56, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete unless someone adds quotes in next week or two. I love this show, but have a problem with content-free pages. (I'd add quotes myself, but I usually only contribute when I can verify quotes, and I have none from this excellent show.) If it's deleted, I'll put it back on the "requested" list of Television shows, so it won't be forgotten. — Jeff Q (talk) 07:16, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete unless someone adds quotes before the vote is closed. --Aphaia 09:28, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 03:53, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- A page for a one-time Simpson's quote. Rmhermen 00:11, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Simpsons quote can go on its page. Other electronic game quotes should go into game pages. — Jeff Q (talk) 05:08, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Too wide. Already said by Jeff Q. --Aphaia 09:26, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: keep. — Jeff Q (talk) 11:08, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Tagged for speedy delete by RoboAction. I changed it back to VFD because it could have a legitimate purpose on Wikiquote, as it does on Wikipedia — namely, a place for Wikiquotians to ask non-Wikiquote questions, as a library customer might ask a librarian a general-knowledge question. Should we: delete it because we don't have the community desire for this off-topic forum; redirect it to Wikiquote:Village pump, where we handle most questions in this still-small community; or keep it, as it is harmless if no one responds, and could be useful if other Wikiquotians take an interest in playing reference librarian on occasion? — Jeff Q (talk) 05:02, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- VOTE CLOSED. Result: 3 Keeps, no dissent; page also made useful in the interim. — Jeff Q (talk) 11:08, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Now that I know it's there, I'll play librarian if I can. — Jeff Q (talk) 05:02, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. It wouldn't be harmful if no one responds to irrelevant questions. And it is friendly we have a page as such. And I appliciate Jeff Q greatly for his offer. --Aphaia 05:11, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Rmhermen 00:11, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: keep. — Jeff Q (talk) 11:14, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Only provides two undescribed (but appropriate) external links and the star's name. I changed a speedy delete tag to a VFD after asking anonymous creator to contribute some quotes. Suggest holding off for a few weeks to see if anyone adds some content.— Jeff Q (talk) 21:23, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- VOTE CLOSED. Results: 5 valid (signed) Keeps, no dissent; article made incredibly useful in the interim. Tremendous work done by at least 8 different editors! A real success for using VfD to rescue articles. — Jeff Q (talk) 11:14, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep -- Forgot to sign this one, Moshe
- Keep -- Added one quote, plan to do more soon.
- Keep -- Added two quotes, and now that I know about this page, I'll be adding more in the future. [sorry I didn't sign in/register before ... didn't know that I needed to, eep!] Whiteowl4 00:10, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep -- Added a couple of quotes and am planning on adding more.
- Keep now. Note to anonymous - unsigned votes aren't counted. Rmhermen 21:16, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Several anonymous contributors have done an excellent job adding substantial content to this article. (I've also asked them to come back and sign their votes to allow them to be counted.) — Jeff Q (talk) 23:19, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. It's taken me a while to work out how to do this but I've added and will continue to add quotes. 195.93.21.99 13:45, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Should the VfD tag be removed from the VM page? I am not sure how to do it, I would appreciate if some sysop would do that. MosheZadka 02:54, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 08:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Several quote websites have this (and only this) unsourced quote for this person, but no other info. Unable to find any noteworthy person by this name. (An obscure sportswriter; a lawyer from a firm with a web page; an alias of a B5 character in one episode, in which he doesn't say this; an obscure Edmonton stage actor, etc. — but nobody famous.) Anyone hear of him? — Jeff Q (talk) 08:07, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- VOTE CLOSED: Result: Deleted (2 Delete [1 after close]; no dissent). Sorry 'bout the delay in effecting closure. — Jeff Q (talk) 08:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. No sign of notability. — Jeff Q (talk) 01:04, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Not notable. --Aphaia 07:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: Move now; delete over time. — Jeffq 19:51, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
This is a list of contributors' favorite quotes. RoboAction put a VFD tag on it on 18 Dec 2004, but there doesn't seem to be an entry for it here, so I'm adding it. Some reasons why this article doesn't make sense:
- Wikiquote originated as a place to put favorite quotes, so it essentially is "Favorites".
- User:Kalki made an excellent point on Talk:Favorites that one can place anything of personal interest, like one's own favorite quotes, on one's User page.
- What other reason is there to have this page, if User pages can reflect each person's favorites, and Wikiquote reflects the community's?
— Jeff Q (talk) 06:18, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- VOTE CLOSED. Results: Move now; delete over time (no Keeps; 1 Delete; 2 Deletes after reintegration [1 implicit]; 1 Move out of main namespace). Move to Wikiquote:Favorites scheduled for 21 April or later, barring alternatives (discuss at TF:Proposed move). — Jeff Q (talk) 19:51, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: It will become unscalable. We can encourage visitors to accumulate their own favorites on their user page instead. --Aphaia 05:15, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete carefully. I beleive this page is linked from several prominent places and we may want to check that the quotes on the page on already on there appropriate subject pages. Rmhermen 14:42, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Links are to Main page, List of categories, and old proposed variations of Main page. I agree that, should we delete, we should first transfer everything into appropriate articles. It'll take some time, but it's doable. — Jeff Q (talk) 06:08, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Google has |exactly one page outside Wiki linking to it. --Eustace Tilley 21:45, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I do feel this shouldn't be in the main article sections. I would vote to archive it somewhere out of the main namespace, to keep a simple record of it, without going to all the trouble that deleting it, and moving much of its content might be. ~ Kalki 19:21, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: merged into Azerbaijani proverbs. — Jeff Q (talk) 04:23, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I merged the data from this stub int Azerbaijanian Proverbs, but the former is the proper title, based on Wikipedia's spelling of the language, Azerbaijani. I would have moved the latter to the former, except the latter had significantly more material and history. Although the stub is now a redirect, it has a history, so I anticipate an error moving Azerbaijanian Proverbs to Azerbaijani proverbs. Meta-Wiki says that deleting the stub should clear the way for the move. — Jeff Q (talk) 07:24, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Support: I propose two resolutions; 1) once deleting "Azerbaijani proverb", after copying its history on talk of "Azerbaijanian Proverbs" and then move the latter to the former (the correct name) 2) manually copying the (merged) content of "Azerbaijanian Proverbs" to the correct one and making the latter a redirect to the former (for preserving its significant history). --Aphaia 09:44, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I don't understand Aphaia second step. If the article is moved its history and talk page moves with it and a redirect is automatically created. Why would anything have to be moved manually? Rmhermen 00:56, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- 2) is not the second step, I proposed two ways - we can choose one of them. The second way is helpful to preserv history (and I am sure most of editors don't care the differences between two): because if we delete one of them to move another, then the history of the former will be lost, and technically it is GFDL violation unless the history of the former won't be kept under the most strict analysis. To prevent this we can merge it technically like 1) but I don't prefer it generally because such history tends to be painful to read. Explanation: when we merge two article technically, (it follows those steps: 0) merging two article on title A manually 1) delete article A. 2) move article B into A. 3) undelete former A, their histories appear cumlatively: then it appear oldest revision of former A, oldest revision of former B, second oldest revision of fromer A ... and it is very painful to read as I say on the above. --Aphaia 04:03, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I don't understand Aphaia second step. If the article is moved its history and talk page moves with it and a redirect is automatically created. Why would anything have to be moved manually? Rmhermen 00:56, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Resolved. Kalki expeditiously merged the cumulative article into Azerbaijani proverbs and redirected the bad name (Aphaia's 2nd resolution) on 27 March. — Jeff Q (talk) 04:23, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: Keep. — Jeffq 23:27, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Created as anonymous-user spam page on 25 Dec 2004, then tagged by RoboAction for deletion. — Jeff Q (talk) 22:06, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- VOTE CLOSED. Result: Keep (1 Keep, 1 implicit Keep, 1 Redirect/Delete; article was also made useful in the interim). — Jeff Q (talk) 23:27, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Redirect or rename?Category use is still fairly new. Is there not a useful meta-topic in this somewhat vague term? I haven't noticed an overview or central article on Category use (like w:Wikipedia:Category) here at Wikiquote. I offer to copy and edit some stuff from Wikipedia unless there is something here that I've just missed. — Jeff Q (talk) 22:06, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I prefer to turn it into a redirect or delete it simply.A document "Category" (or Categories) would be very helpful! But I think we don't need not every categories on Wikipedia - like "1700 death". *g --Aphaia 09:56, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I didn't mean we need to use Wikipedia categories themselves. I'd just like to see a "Wikiquote:" namespace page that explains categories and provides some guidance on how to name them and use them, tailored to Wikiquote needs. I'm sure Categories have been discussed elsewhere in Wikiquote, but there should be a central, logical place to find such discussions. — Jeff Q (talk) 20:47, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I have some questions about category. Where do we discuss this? Rmhermen 23:12, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Perhaps on Village pump for now. I'm writing up a summary of the Wikiquote category situation as I see it, which I hope to post there in the next few hours. But don't let me hold you up. — Jeff Q (talk) 01:19, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I started a new discussion on the village pump about filling in some gaps in Wikiquote's current use of Wikimedia Categories. Its outcome affects this article, so folks might want to check it out. — Jeff Q (talk) 04:26, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I have some questions about category. Where do we discuss this? Rmhermen 23:12, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I didn't mean we need to use Wikipedia categories themselves. I'd just like to see a "Wikiquote:" namespace page that explains categories and provides some guidance on how to name them and use them, tailored to Wikiquote needs. I'm sure Categories have been discussed elsewhere in Wikiquote, but there should be a central, logical place to find such discussions. — Jeff Q (talk) 20:47, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I have tried to turn this into something we can use, anticipating the conclusion of the discussion on the Village Pump. Rmhermen 14:05, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep: I change my opinion. After editing by Rmhermen it turns to a quite useful document. --Aphaia 09:24, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: delete, pending technical fix. ~ Kalki 14:57, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Tag=ged on Dec 2004 but perhaps not listed here. 首页 means "Main page" in Chinese and it has almost no content. --Aphaia 06:19, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- This was created by someone before the Wikiquotes in other languages had been started up, but technical problems with the software currently prevent its deletion. ~ Kalki 14:57, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: Deleted. ~ Kalki 11:41, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
A google search finds half a dozen sites with this same strange misspelled quote and definition. Some sort if hoax surely. Rmhermen 16:23, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: like this? Anyway it isn't atributed even to anonym and means almost nothing. Not worthy to keep in my opinion. --Aphaia 17:14, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep: Reirom is very known in the emulation scene, it redefined the concept of Troll, it is very famous in the EFNet. Some people and many tech-scenes says: Have two ages: before reirom, and after reirom. --Mateusc 00:03, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep --Oblivion 21:41, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete : Unless some understandable context can be provided for this peice of gibberish,it should be disposed of within the next week. It does not seem to be "very known" on the "emulation scene", nor have any common usage beyond the handful of google hits that have been mentioned, where it seems to have been posted in a similar fashion as on this wiki. It seems to be perhaps some personal prank or private code, neither widespread nor noteworthy beyond some very small clique, and perhaps merely the contrivance of some odd individual. ~ Kalki 14:43, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Amending my comment slightly: there does seem to be some reference of "Reirom" on some talk pages for emulation games dating back to at least 2000. But it still does not seem to be either very widespread, nor very clear what these statements refer to: and until there is some more information and clearer context provided, as to why this should be considered a "quotable" or "notable" statement of someone, I would still vote to delete. ~ Kalki 18:56, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Wait. Wikipedia has a similarly confusing article on Reirom, but they have 1,000 times the eyeballs to poll for hard details and references. I've VFD'd its page in the hopes that someone other than the contributors of these articles (on both sites) can substantiate it or confirm it to be unencylopedic. — Jeff Q (talk) 06:43, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)- Delete. I changed my vote because the Wikipedia article has now been deleted after an overwhelming vote (with only Wikipedia's Mateusc and an anonymous user dissenting). Furthermore, both our Mateusc and Oblivion above have exactly the same total contribution pattern at Wikiquote — recording their Reirom Keep votes here, creating a one-line User page, and tweaking Reirom, suggesting that they only registered here to vote against deletion, and that one may be a sockpuppet of the other. Finally, Mateusc has not responded to my request on their talk page that they provide some hard evidence of assertions that "Reirom" is somehow notable. — Jeff Q (talk) 14:54, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- NOTE: Aphaia just reverted vandalism of this page by an anon who removed all but the two Keep votes. I just reverted yet another removal of the vfd tag on the article itself and blocked the user for 24 hours for vandalizing VFD, after earlier removing two anon votes that were fraudulently masquerading as registered users. I am too involved in stopping these assaults (even while trying to get these people to actually make a case) to feel comfortable closing the vote, even though we're well past the two-week recommendation AND the Wikipedia page has been deleted by loud acclamation. Could some other sysop finalize this vote, please? — Jeff Q (talk) 09:35, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Strongly delete: We need no vanity. --Aphaia 07:44, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC) (Moved 09:22, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC) by author herself)
- Deleted ~ Kalki 11:41, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: delete. — Jeff Q (talk) 23:54, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Was voted on in conjunction with James Norman Bowks Sr. (second entry).
Both created by User:ILVI, the first page is himself, the second presumably a relative. Neither has any notability outside of Wikiquotes and its mirrors. Rmhermen 00:09, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: The first is the editor himself according to his userpage on Wiktionary, so it should be on his own page (not on normal namespace), the latter can't be found elsewhere than this page, and almost meaningless, so should be deleted. --Aphaia 17:20, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. — Jeff Q (talk) 05:01, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Tagged for deletion, but technical problems with the software currently prevent its deletion. — Jeff Q (talk) 23:54, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: delete. — Jeff Q (talk) 23:55, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Was voted on in conjunction with Jacinto Javier Bowks de la Rosa (first entry).
Both created by User:ILVI, the first page is himself, the second presumably a relative. Neither has any notability outside of Wikiquotes and its mirrors. Rmhermen 00:09, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: The first is the editor himself according to his userpage on Wiktionary, so it should be on his own page (not on normal namespace), the latter can't be found elsewhere than this page, and almost meaningless, so should be deleted. --Aphaia 17:20, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. — Jeff Q (talk) 05:01, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Deleted. — Jeff Q (talk) 23:55, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: UNIDENTIFIED. NO SIGNATURE
Hard to image any use for this unused image. Rmhermen 02:07, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. A personal logo for someone who has no other contributions nor userpage. Has been unused since last October. jni 12:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Same as Jni. --Aphaia 14:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Jeff Q (talk) 22:40, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: UNIDENTIFIED. NO SIGNATURE
Screen captures from Platoon, apparently. We probably don't need all, maybe don't need any. Rmhermen 02:07, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete I like we use fair use images as less as possible. --Aphaia 14:28, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete all. I think that, if we want a fair-use Platoon image, there's a better one on Wikipedia. — Jeff Q (talk) 23:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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The result was: Deleted. ~ Kalki 19:09, 11 March 2005 (UTC)reply
- Looks like advertising, not quotes from a notable person. Rmhermen 18:19, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Deleted ~ Kalki
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The result was: Deleted. ~ Kalki 19:09, 11 March 2005 (UTC)reply
- non-notable quote from non-notable personage. Rmhermen 17:39, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Deleted ~ Kalki
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The result was: Deleted. ~ Kalki 19:09, 11 March 2005 (UTC)reply
- Only Google hits for this person are mirrors of this site. Rmhermen 19:53, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Deleted ~ Kalki
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The result was: keep. ~ Kalki 19:09, 11 March 2005 (UTC)reply
- No idea what this is or who it is supposed to be a quote from. Rmhermen 16:10, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- This has been made into a properly labeled page. ~ Kalki
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The result was: Deleted. ~ Kalki 19:09, 11 March 2005 (UTC)reply
Appears to be personal vanity page. Only Google hits were [1] Rmhermen 14:59, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Deleted ~ Kalki
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The result was: Deleted.. Aphaia 09:56, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Appears to be personal quotes from the page creator. Note the original edit which just consisted of two links to his website. Rmhermen 21:05, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Page was created as link to creator's website. Even if he's notable, it's not Wiki policy to have people create articles about themselves, except for User pages. — Jeff Q (talk) 04:48, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Deleted. Aphaia 09:56, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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