VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive/2016/02

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Request: Can we align to right/center/left in a table by using Visual Editor?

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Hi there, we love visual editor, a big fan.

However, when we are trying Visual Editor to edit table here on meta for our financial summary by @Natsu621, and we can't find the way to align the words to the right / center / left. Since it is involved with money, the alignment should be set on the right to meet the digit in ones. According to the record on this site, the latest update for relevant page is 3 months ago. I am wondering is there any possible agenda to have this feature for this year? Thank you, and keep the good work! Shangkuanlc (talk) 08:59, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello there! Work related to tables is actually a big focus this quarter. I made https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103276 more generic now, and will ask James about it when I can. (Note that in the meantime you can obviously still apply attributes to tables made with the visual editor via the wikitext editor). Elitre (WMF) (talk) 09:06, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply! I have added the attributes by wikitext editor now :) Shangkuanlc (talk) 14:11, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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Rendering custom Annotations in VE

Hey folks,

I'm adding custom annotaitons to VE (currently Text/Background-Color). I've been quite successfull, as everything except one thing works.

When I add a color, it doesn't get rendered in VE. When I safe the page, it shows correctly, and when I then open VE, it also shows correctly (as it now gets the data from HTML). May someone tell me what I have to add to make it work? I've debugged the process of rendering in VE until the ve.ce.ContentBranchNode class, where everything seems to be okay (compared to the rendering the of LanguageAnnotation). But in appendRenderedContents() in ve.ce.ContentBranchNode the un-changed text get's appended. 195.200.254.142 (talk) 13:39, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Changing Page Name

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/48.0.2564.97 Safari/537.36

I can't figure out how to change the Page Name for this page. URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendleton%E2%80%93Hermiston_Micropolitan_Statistical_Area?action=edit&veswitched=1

The U.S. Census Bureau now refers to this area as the Hermiston-Pendleton MSA, source here http://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?src=bkmk MIM1765 (talk) 16:38, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi MIM1765, page names are changed through the "Move" tab, next to the History tab at the top of the page. See w:en:Help:How to move a page. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:10, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

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Language parameter for citations

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I recently witnessed an editor adding citations to an article using the Automatic function (they merely paste the URL), and VE included the language parameter designating US English. Obviously, the language parameters are only to be used on English Wikipedia when the language is not English. Is this mis-programming or am I missing something? TAnthony (talk) 19:51, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

The consensus about what to include in these templates on the English Wikipedia appears to have changed. The citation templates have been updated to suppress the display but to keep the content. Including this information in the template is particularly useful when the page is translated to another language. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 02:50, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

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Weird scroll behavior

I have this weird problem that when I scroll down on a page while in edit mode and then i klick on something inside the editor, the mouse focus is at the right place, but somehow the window always scrolls back to the point where the focus was before. It happens every time i klick on something that is not already visible in the current window. Is this a bug? What can I do to change this behavior? 62.159.94.35 (talk) 15:36, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Is this on a Wikimedia production wiki? If not, it may be a bug we fixed a few months ago in master. Can you tell me what browsers with which this appears to happen? Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 16:38, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

I tried with Chrome, Firefox and Internet Explorer, newest Versions of each, same result for each... It's a private Wiki for our company, and I am not the one who set it up, somehow i got the job to fix this issue now... The Infos I can give you is we have the newest Version of Visualeditor installed (0.1.0) and the Mediawiki Version is 1.25.1. Sorry I posted this answer on my Question and not your reply can I delete it? 62.159.94.35 (talk) 10:45, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

I tried with Chrome, Firefox and Internet Explorer, newest Versions of each, same result for each... It's a private Wiki for our company, and I am not the one who set it up, somehow i got the job to fix this issue now... The Infos I can give you is we have the newest Version of Visualeditor installed (0.1.0) and the Mediawiki Version is 1.25.1. 62.159.94.35 (talk) 10:44, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Lot of nowiki tags at mr-wikipedia

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Hi,

Please have a look at these edits. At mr-wikipedia we now do have good number of nowiki tags (approx 30% edits) few of them coming from translation extention rest of them are from VE. Please do suggest if we need to log in any new bug or which bug do we follow.

And also whether we will need to have a bot for nowiki tag removal, if so which kind bot will be more effective.

Thanks and Regards Mahitgar (talk) 10:20, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

The cases you're linking to are user's mistakes.

In some, the editor writes a word, adds a link, and then keeps typing without putting a space after the linked word.

In others, the editor is pasting source code into the visual editor, rather than using (example 1, example 2) the tools provided in the visual editor to achieve the same goal.

For the first case you simply want to tell editors in your community to remember about that space; for the second, beside reminding that wikicode should not be used inside the visual editor, it may also help to have some templates, like the main Cite ones, optimized for use within the visual editor, and to have them available in the Cite menu. (There are several suggestions and useful links about how to improve the visual editor experience). Elitre (WMF) (talk) 11:14, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks for prompt reply. When I tested one related VE-nowiki tag behaviour I found it to be different than expected, so I kept it informed vide bug no. T126743

Warm regards Mahitgar (talk) 15:18, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the tests and for the report, they are appreciated. Elitre (WMF) (talk) 15:23, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

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disable globally?

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I assume this is not the kind of feedback you want to read, but: Is there a way to globally disable VisualEditor for my very own SUL account once and for all in all SUL affected wikis? Man77 (talk) 19:34, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

There is no kind of feedback that we aren't interested in. As global preferences aren't available yet, there is no option that you can choose from your Preferences, but there may be user scripts which advanced editors may use ("at their own risk"): see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T16950 . Elitre (WMF) (talk) 10:11, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

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Error: Cannot edit on subpages only

I was able to install VisualEditor / Parsoid on my wiki, however I get a rather annoying bug when trying to edit a subpage:

Topic

works!

Topic/Subtopic

parsoidserver-http-bad-status: 404. Would you like to retry?

I am however able to create a new subpage and it will save correctly. But as soon as I try to edit, the 404 error occurs. I did some digging and it seems the api calls are a bit different in each case:

Topic

Call #1 /api.php?action=visualeditor&format=json&paction=parse&page=Topic&uselang=en

Call #2 /api.php?format=json&action=query&prop=revisions&rawcontinue=1&rvprop=content%7Cids%7Ctimestamp%7Cuser%7Cuserid%7Csize%7Csha1%7Ccontentmodel%7Ccomment&revids=182

Topic/Subtopic

Call #1 /api.php?action=visualeditor&format=json&paction=parse&page=Topic/Subtopic&uselang=en

Call #2 /api.php?format=json&action=query&prop=revisions&rawcontinue=1&rvprop=content%7Cids%7Ctimestamp%7Cuser%7Cuserid%7Csize%7Csha1%7Ccontentmodel%7Ccomment&titles=V3%2Fpage%2Fhtml%2Topic%2FSubtopic%2F184

As you can see, the ending is a bit different in the second API call. For subpages, it uses the "titles" parameter with "V3/page/html/" + page name + "/" + ID. If I replace the value with only the pagename (e.g. titles=Topic/Subtopic), I get a meaningful result.

Using MediaWiki 1.26

Thanks! NGPixel (talk) 16:59, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Visual Editor is not working

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Hello everybody,

my computer system is win 10 and

my webbrowser is mozilla firefox 44.0.2

I can not use the visual editor for the moment.

I open the visual editor to change numbers, but I can not click on the numbers. About feedback I would be delighted.

Best regards Arndtmc1 (talk) 08:35, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

editing a table:

Doubleclick to edit a cell do not work now. Workaround: one click to select a cell, then press enter to edit a cell. Diwas (talk) 15:52, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

The user is trying to edit https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Tabellenf%C3%BChrer_der_Fu%C3%9Fball-Bundesliga?veaction=edit . Elitre (WMF) (talk) 17:34, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Now at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128282 . Elitre (WMF) (talk) 17:43, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

I can work well with a proposal by Diwas. Many thanks for the help. Have a nice weekend. Arndtmc1 (talk) 18:15, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

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Confusions over "Page title" section heading in VE dropdown

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Hi,

At mr-wikipedia I came across a bug where in even if only first two words of first line are selected for VE's "page title" comand which is supposed to add = this equal sign wiki mark up for top section heading on both side of the selected words instead VE is adding = this equal sign wiki mark up to the entire paragrah. This bug has been reported vide Maniphest T128329

What this bug would not take care of is a novice user's confusion over word "Page title" in the menubar as Article Page name. In wikimark up editor this did not matter since = this equal sign wiki mark up for top section heading had to be manually added. In case of VE signs get automatically added. Usage of words 'Page title" for article name and top section heading within the article seem to be creating minor confusion to novice user and there may be a need to name different purposes differently. I do not know if any one has reported this to you previously I prefer to keep you informed. Thanks and regards Mahitgar (talk) 17:24, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

All of the formatting commands apply to all of the paragraph(s) in which the cursor/selection currently resides, which is intentionally the same behaviour as in Google Docs, Microsoft Office and other rich text editors.

It's very important that the interface for the visual editor works in a way that is the least surprising for the majority of our users, and adopting interface mechanisms that are the most consistent with similar software out in the wider world is one of the main ways in which we seek to do this.

That said, I do worry that "Page title" though accurate doesn't necessarily convey to the user exactly what will happen when they click on it, even in context of a series of other levels of heading and other types of paragraph-level formatting options. (The HTML term, "Heading level 1", is probably worse, though; we very much don't want to encourage people to use it in general practice, which that would suggest.) If you have suggestions for how we could re-phrase the label to a similarly brief comment that gives a better understanding of this, I'd be grateful. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 23:32, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

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