Help talk:Notifications/Types

"Talk page messages" details

@Trizek (WMF) I don't understand

Details: link to the user page or the last user who left you a message for that group

since your 15 july edit.

It is the link to user page of what user?

What is concretely displayed when "last user" is displayed? Their user name? Pols12 (talk) 17:06, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Link to the user page I would say. But I'm not sure to understand the context... On which section are you?

(BTW, thank you very much for reading theses pages :)) Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 09:32, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

On "#Talk page messages" section, "details" item. Previously it was a link to a specific user page. "of" have become "or". Pols12 (talk) 10:53, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Fixed! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:52, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Difference between red alert and blue notice

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What is the conceptual difference? i.e. when a new kind of message is introduced, how do you decide which kind it will be? I find the presence of two separate lists rather confusing and redundant. Equinox (talk) 12:22, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

The first badge (red, "alerts") contains most important notification types: new messages on your talk page, mentions, etc. The second badge (blue, "notices") contains less important notifications: pages likes, message on other talk pages, etc. With that system, you know if you have to take an immediate action, or if it the notification is not that important and can be handled later.

This has been changed after a survey on all English and French speaking WMF wikis. Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 18:26, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Two years later: heh, yeah, I'm used to it now. Usually red means "someone is yelling at you". Thanks. Equinox (talk) 23:43, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

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Mentions from edit summary

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There should be an option in the preferences to disable this kind of notifications, otherwise an user can recive tenths of notifications from rollbacks only. Ruthven (talk) 12:47, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. Have you experienced it? Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 14:50, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes, today is pretty continuous. That's true that I am quite active, but receiving notifications when other users revert back to a version that I authored is distracting and not requested.

We should either have a way to disable these notifications, or change the summary wrote by ''undo'' and ''rollback'' in all the projects. Ruthven (talk) 14:54, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

I think you are on that already reported case. Sorry for the inconvenance! Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 15:19, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Page title is incorrect

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This help page should be moved to "Help:Notifications/Notification types" (singular "/Notification") or, better yet, just "Help:Notifications/Types".

(I'm not going to try to do this myself, since I don't know how page moves work [or maybe don't?] when the corresponding talk page is Flow-enabled.) dcljr (talk) 01:48, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Simple curiosity from a non-native English speaker, what is the grammatical reason for renaming it? Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 08:36, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Just jumping in here, if I may. The current wording is not idiomatic.

Adding 'type' to a noun creates the noun phrase "[noun] type", with [noun] always being in the singular. If there are multiple types, the noun phrase becomes "[noun] types", again with [noun] in the singular.

So, for example:

Types of cell -> cell types

Types of hair -> hair types

Types of property -> property types.

But anyway, Help:Notifications/Types would be best. MichaelMaggs (talk) 15:14, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation. :)

I made the move. Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 18:16, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

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Empty pipe example in the edit summary section

While typing [[User:Username|]] into an edit summary may, as indicated, successfully notify the user, its inclusion as an example at Help:Notifications/Types#Mentions in edit summary gives the impression that an editor would use it. That, in turn, may raise the expectation the empty pipe works for the purpose intended, to hide "User:" from the text. But the empty pipe trick doesn't work in edit summaries, yielding the same result as [[User:Username]] without the pipe character. So, though it isn't exactly doing any harm, I propose we remove that example as mildly deceptive or confusing, leaving only [[User:Username]] and [[User:Username|Username]]. Largoplazo (talk) 12:49, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello

I rely on your tests. :)

I edited the help page. However, instead of removing the example, I've detailed what it does. It is better to explain all cases than removing things and have them being undocumented. Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 13:37, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I think it needs a tweak--it doesn't appear as [[User:Username]] in the history, as you wrote it. It's that it displays as a link with the text "User:Username" rather than just "Username" as would be expected by someone familiar with empty pipes from their use on Talk pages. I'd change it myself but I don't know the convention to follow for formatting these links in this context. Largoplazo (talk) 16:05, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Correct! I typed too fast. :)

Thank you very much for your help! Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 16:45, 21 January 2020 (UTC)