Top Ten Wikipedias/poll

Description

The following is a poll about a rearrangement of the top ten wikipedias that are displayed on the main wikipedia portal (http://www.wikipedia.org). The poll will start on July 6, 2008 at 00:00 UTC and will end on July 31, 2008 at 23:59 UTC.

Introduction

This topic has been wandering around for a long time on Talk:www.wikipedia.org template, coming to surface in many occasions, especially on the times around the milestone of 100.000 articles of the Chinese and Russian Wikipedias.

After a tentative wrap-up of all the proposals made in that page throughout the months in Talk:www.wikipedia.org template#rethinking the top ten, a discussion was launched in Top Ten Wikipedias, to which all the major Wikipedias have been invited to in their village pump.

A lot of good opinions have been collected and discussed, and a vote proposal has been made and received some feedback. That proposal is now being implemented below.

Vote requirements

Any Wikimedian may vote, provided that they:

1. Have a user account created at least 3 months before the start of the vote (i.e. 5 March 2008) on any Wikipedia;
2. Have a user account on Meta, with links in the user page to the other project(s) userpage(s) and
3. Have a minimum 500 edits (across all projects) total.

How to vote

1. Voters should choose only one of each option for the questions below (Important: this doesn't apply to the options 3.C and 3.D).
2. If an option has sub-options, the parent option shouldn't be voted on, but rather one of the sub-options. The sub-options will count individually against the top-level options.
3. The most voted option of a question will be chosen.

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Question 1

Which criterion should be used in the main wikipedia portal (http://www.wikipedia.org) for sorting the various language editions of wikipedia?

Option A

Number of articles (the current criterion)

1. Maksim 05:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
2. --SkyDrinker 09:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
3. --Gusme 11:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
4. Cradel 12:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
5. --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:01, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

   Rubietje88 14:05, 6 July 2008 (UTC) (see nl:Gebruiker:Rubietje88) please add the link in your meta userpage as required. Waldir 14:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

   Cumulus 14:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC) please add the link in your meta userpage as required in the instructions above. Waldir 14:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

6. Lvova 15:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
7. Erwin1990 15:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
8. — Iguacu • ru 16:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
9. Xyboi 16:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
10. --Felisopus Talk to me 16:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
11. Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 17:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
12. Art Unbound 17:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
13. --Actarux 17:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
14. Gruznov 18:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
15. OekelWm 19:15, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
16. -- Prince Kassad 19:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
17. --Maurits 21:29, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
18. Nsaa 21:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
19. Roelzzz 00:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
20. --Westermarck 00:43, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
21. Mhaesen 06:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
22. Migdejong 07:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
23. Polimerek 07:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
24. JacobH 07:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
25. Rdrozd 08:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
26. Panairjdde 09:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
27. --Alma Pater 09:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
28. --Itsmine 09:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
29. --KS 12:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
30. Epinheiro 13:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
31. --Mordan ( talk - de - de-talk ) 13:57, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
32. --Florian Adler 14:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
33. --Meisterkoch 14:45, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
34. --Oys 14:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
35. --Wuselig 15:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
36. --Wolfgang H. 16:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Option B

Most visited wikipedias (usability for the visitor instead of praise to the editors; portal as navigational tool. Discussion here)

1. Paintman 00:19, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
2. Gons (¿Digame?) 00:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC).
3. Waldir 00:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
4. --C'est moi 00:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
5. -- MS >>> 01:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
6. --Morza (sono qui) 01:49, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
7. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 02:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
8. --Aleposta 03:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
9. 333 03:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
10. --Kwj2772 04:24, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
11. --GerardM 05:39, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
12. Davewild 07:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
13. Mercedes (Gusgus) (mensajes) 07:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
14. --Bultro 08:06, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
15. --<flrn> 08:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
16. ----Fernando Estel 09:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
17. Helios 10:01, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
18. Tholly 10:37, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
19. Jeron 10:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
20. João Sousa 11:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
21. --Yerul ^(comlink) 11:42, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
22. Filceolaire 11:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
23. Marcos 11:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
24.  ※   JéRRy   ┼   雨雨   ※  12:11, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
25. --Anonymous Dissident^Talk 13:11, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
26. --Nekto 13:51, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
27. Kevinhksouth 14:49, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
28. --Elisardojm 15:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
29. Njaelkies Lea 16:26, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
30. －PhiLiP 16:29, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
31. --χario ^{WP:de: χario} 16:51, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
32. Leo Johannes 16:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
33. Anders Wennersten 17:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
34. --Lockal 17:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
35. MiCkE 19:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
36. --Ysogo 20:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
37. --Sanbec 21:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
38. Ainali 21:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
39. --Hispalois 21:54, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
40. VasilievV ² 21:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
41. MikaelLindmark 23:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
42. --Isha 00:39, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
43. --Galio 00:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
44. --Jorunn 00:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
45. --Guaca 01:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
46. Nakon 04:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
47. Racso 04:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
48. Hargau 07:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
49. #!George Shuklin 07:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
50. --Puppy8800 09:10, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
51. Eleassar ^{my talk} 10:27, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
52. Littlepotato 11:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
53. ...Aurora... 11:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
54. Shibo77 12:28, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
55. Pedram.salehpoor 13:01, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
56. --长夜无风 14:13, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
57. Jordi Roqué 14:30, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
58. --Julius1990 14:48, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
59. --SCPS 15:00, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
60. --habakuk 15:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
61. --Joseaperez 15:28, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
62. --Ecemaml 15:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
63. --Computor 16:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Option C

Size of compressed database (an adaptation of the current measure, but reducing impact of bot-created articles — see reasoning)

Option D

Number of articles with a given minimum size (a simpler adaptation; filters out stubs and bot-created articles)

Sub-option D.1

1 kB (1 byte = 1 ASCII character)

Sub-option D.2

2 kB (used in http://stats.wikimedia.org)

1. Leptictidium 12:52, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
2. --Marbot 14:19, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
3. Mfloryan 15:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Sub-option D.3

3 kB (proposed here)

1. SyG 16:09, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Option E

Most spoken languages (like 1.b, intended to be useful for the most people possible. Discussion here)

1. Tosão 00:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
2. Mollerup 13:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
3. Berserkerus 14:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
4. --::Slomox:: >< 16:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
5. --jeroenvrp 23:21, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Question 2

Should only one of the above criteria be used, or a combination of them? (By multiplication of the rankings — harder to cheat, but less comprehensive to visitors)

Option A

One — 1 (the most voted one, on question 1.)

1. Gons (¿Digame?) 00:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC).
2. Waldir 00:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
3. GerardM 05:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
4. Davewild 07:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
5. Mercedes (Gusgus) (mensajes) 07:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
6. --Bultro 08:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
7. <flrn> 08:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
8. --SkyDrinker 09:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
9. Helios 09:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
10. João Sousa 11:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
11. --Yerul ^(comlink) 11:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
12. Marcos 11:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
13. Mollerup 13:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
14. --Anonymous Dissident^Talk 13:21, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
15. --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:02, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
16. Lvova 15:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
17. — Iguacu • ru 16:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
18. Njaelkies Lea 16:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
19. --χario ^{WP:de: χario} 16:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
20. Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 17:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
21. --Actarux 17:15, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
22. Anders Wennersten 17:33, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
23. MiCkE 19:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
24. -- Prince Kassad 19:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
25. --Lockal 20:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
26. Nsaa 21:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
27. Ainali 21:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
28. VasilievV ² 21:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
29. --Hispalois 21:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
30. --Nemo 22:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
31. --jeroenvrp 23:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
32. Roelzzz 00:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
33. Nakon 04:46, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
34. Mhaesen 06:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
35. Hargau 07:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
36. JacobH 07:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
37. --Alma Pater 09:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
38. --Itsmine 09:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
39. Jon Harald Søby 10:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
40. Eleassar ^{my talk} 10:28, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
41. Littlepotato 11:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
42. Shibo77 12:27, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
43. Leptictidium 12:52, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
44. Epinheiro 13:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
45. --Computor 16:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Option B

Two — 2 (the two most voted)

1. - tholly ^--Turnip-- 10:39, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
2. --Gusme 11:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
3. --Nekto 13:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
4. Xyboi 16:26, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
5. --Felisopus Talk to me 16:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
6. Art Unbound 17:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
7. OekelWm 19:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
8. --Ysogo 20:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
9. MikaelLindmark 23:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
10. Polimerek 07:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
11. Panairjdde 09:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
12. ...Aurora... 11:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
13. --Marbot 14:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
14. Jordi Roqué 14:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
15. --Florian Adler 14:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
16. --Oys 14:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
17. --M.L 15:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
18. --Wuselig 15:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
19. --Ecemaml 15:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
20. Mfloryan 15:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
21. --Wolfgang H. 16:26, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Option C

Three — 3 (the three most voted)

1. --Meisterkoch 14:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
2. --SCPS 15:01, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Question 3

Should a visual clue be used to highlight the language version determined by the language of the browser, OS, and IP of the visitor?

Option A

No

1. Maksim 05:51, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
2. Davewild 07:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
3. SyG 16:11, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
4. Xyboi 16:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
5. --Ysogo 20:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
6. --Hispalois 21:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
7. Roelzzz 00:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
8. Nakon 04:45, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
9. Mhaesen 06:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
10. Migdejong 07:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
11. ...Aurora... 11:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
12. Shibo77 12:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
13. --Florian Adler 14:45, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
14. --Meisterkoch 14:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
15. --Oys 14:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
16. --Wolfgang H. 16:27, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Option B

Reverse video (like this)

Option C (non-exclusive with Option D)

If the "local" language version is one of the top ten: Reordering of the ranking (dynamic portal approach: move the local version to the top position and the others which were above it will drop one position each)

1. <flrn> 08:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

   --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:06, 6 July 2008 (UTC) vote change, sorry --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

2. --Mordan ( talk - de - de-talk ) 13:57, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
3. --habakuk 15:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
4. --Wuselig 15:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Option D (non-exclusive with Option C)

If the "local" language version is not in the top ten:

Sub-option D.1

Do nothing (leave it as it is)

Sub-option D.2

Replace one of the top ten the editions (remove the last one of the top ten and add the "local" version in its place)

1. Berserkerus 14:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
2. MiCkE 19:02, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
3. MikaelLindmark 23:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Sub-option D.3

Replace the editions (remove the last one of the top ten and add the "local" version in the first place, moving all the others down one position)

1. --Bultro 08:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
2. <flrn> 08:42, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
3. Helios 10:00, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
4. - tholly ^--Turnip-- 10:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
5. --Gusme 11:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
6. --Yerul ^(comlink) 11:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
7. Njaelkies Lea 16:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
8. --Felisopus Talk to me 16:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
9. --::Slomox:: >< 16:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
10. --Michail 17:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
11. -- Prince Kassad 19:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
12. Nsaa 21:33, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
13. Ainali 21:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
14. Racso 04:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
15. Migdejong 07:13, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
16. Polimerek 07:52, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
17. --Panairjdde 09:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
18. Jon Harald Søby 10:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
19. Eleassar ^{my talk} 10:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC) (Due to accessibility issues)
20. --Mordan ( talk - de - de-talk ) 13:59, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
21. --Marbot 14:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
22. --SCPS 15:02, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
23. --habakuk 15:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
24. --Wuselig 15:59, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Option E

Different font color (e.g. like this)

1. Tosão 00:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
2. Gons (¿Digame?) 00:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)º
3. Waldir 00:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
4. Jeron 10:45, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
5. João Sousa 11:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
6. Mollerup 13:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
7. --Nekto 13:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
8. --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
9. Kevinhksouth 14:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
10. Erwin1990 16:00, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
11. --Actarux 17:15, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
12. OekelWm 19:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
13. --Maurits 21:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
14. VasilievV ² 21:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
15. --Nemo 22:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
16. --jeroenvrp 23:25, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
17. Hargau 07:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
18. --Itsmine 09:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
19. Littlepotato 11:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
20. Epinheiro 13:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
21. --M.L 15:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
22. Mfloryan 15:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC)