User talk:Philip Cross

Welcome

Hello, Philip Cross, and welcome to the English Wikiquote, a free compendium of quotations written collaboratively by people just like you!

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To ask for advice or assistance feel free to drop by the Village Pump or ask on my talk page. Happy editing! And again, welcome! -- Mdd (talk) 20:42, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

"Summary" or "intro"

Hi Philip Cross,

I noticed you have been doing a lot of work at WQ lately. Just a small question about WQ jargon...

In Julian Assange you made some changes to the introduction and called it "updated summary". Just wondering, since I had always assumed that a summary refers to the Edit Summary.

Keep up the good work! Ottawahitech (talk) 16:51, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

OK, will type "introduction" in future. Thanks. Philip Cross (talk) 17:32, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Talk page headers

Hi Philip Cross and thank you for your work here. Please don't create talk pages just to add the talk header - as the template documentation on {{talkheader}} says, "This template should be used only when needed. Acculturation can't be forced, and it can be overdone. If the message is on every talk page, its impact will be reduced." Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 21:15, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Hadley Freeman

[Split Ottawahitech comments into new section from the Talk page headers issue. Philip Cross (talk) 14:52, 2 November 2022 (UTC)]

I just happened to see Hadley Freeman which is one of the pages @Ferien is talking about, I think? I made a small edit to the page and was not sure if I should have posted my edit summary to the talk page or not? Opinions?

In my experience WQ has a poor attendance on most of its talk pages Ottawahitech (talk) 14:44, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

No it's fine. Ms Freeman has spent most of her life in the UK, but still identifies as a New Yorker, perhaps more so than being explicitly an American. Philip Cross (talk) 14:52, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

#SheSaid

Thanks for Special:Diff/3197227. I could easily have gender assigned them to the #SheSaid by mistake. I was wondering if you know any good [[:w:Al Murray] quotes. More serioussly you've done some excellent articles here but I wonder if you do any more for women at this time you could add #SheSaid to the comment as it saves me having to do dummy one. Thanks. -- User:Djm-leighpark_(a)^talk 09:05, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Don't know any Al Murray jokes, sorry. Will try to remember to add #SheSaid in due course. Cheers. Philip Cross (talk) 09:43, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

talkheader on the Assange Talk-page

Hi Philip Cross, I see you have added the talk-page template to Talk: Julian Assange. Problem is: this template is outdated. It is no longer necessary to sign or to place a new section at the bottom when one clicks Add topic, and, unfortuately, we have no one (as far as know) at Wikiquote who has the interest and experience necessary to work on templates. I hope I am making sense? Cheers, Ottawahitech (talk) 18:02, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

You are perfectly comprehensible. I don't add the template to the talk pages anymore. Philip Cross (talk) 20:09, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Elvis Presley

I believe you have shown interest in or edited some Elvis Presley related pages. You may be interested in the discussion at Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Elvis Presley quote forks, and may even wish to participate or add comment(s). Thankyou -- User:Djm-leighpark_(a)^talk 07:45, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Telegraph website should be accessible to non-subscribers to a limited extent

Hi Philip Cross,

Can you please explain what you meant when you un-did my edit at Lee Anderson saying

Telegraph website should be accessible to non-subscribers to a limited extent

Also just to let you know I receive no notification of your undo, not sure why. Ottawahitech (talk) 03:34, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Ottawahitech, I reverted your addition manually. Checking, it is true the Telegraph does not have metered access for non-subscribers, but selecting "Text-only version" from the Google cache does get around the problem.

Best. Philip Cross (talk) 08:19, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

I also use manual reverts (undo), but I hope that the users I am reverting still get notified? Also, how do you get a Google-cache-version when clicking on a link at ENWQ? Thanks again, Ottawahitech (talk) 17:50, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

See here. Left click on the three vertical dots at the end of the https line and, in the box which appears, select cache on the bottom far right. Philip Cross (talk) 19:20, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

When I click More followed by three vertical dots this is what I see:

• Maps
• Shopping
• Flights
• Finance

all preceded by an icon, but no google-cache

Thanks for Your time, Ottawahitech (talk) 20:12, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Tagging for speedy

Hello, Philip Cross. You tagged following pages as speedy. Sadly, according to current wikiquote:Speedy deletions, there's no such policy for speedy them. But I believe VFD is the better place for them, can you fix them to {{vfd-new}}?

• Nicos Anastasiades
• Volkan Bozkır
• Hu Xijin
• Gilbert Mercier
• Emmerson Mnangagwa
• Rich Whitney
• Zeng Guang

Lemonaka (talk) 14:50, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Thankyou for pointing where I have erred. Thankyou for your help. Fixed, eventually. Philip Cross (talk) 15:23, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

VFD

Thank you for your nominations of a few pages for VFD. Please remember to use the process spelled out on Wikiquote:Votes for deletion page - in which you use substitution templates (rather than simply typing up your input). This ensures that certain things like the end date of the nomination are added. If you're not sure, take a look at the page and ask any questions you may have. Thanks. ~ UDScott (talk) 14:38, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Done, I think correctly on the remainder listed above.. Thankyou for your help. Philip Cross (talk) 15:23, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Can I also request you inform major contributors. Its not mandatory but I would advise it for editors with accounts in good standing and not explicitly retired. I am now more aware of concerns from an AE ban by which while outside enWP jurisdiction specifically mention enWikiquote activities. To a degree I see possible concerns with some of your activities here. In my view it is possible they will become a problem for you at some point. Thankyou. -- DeirgeDel ^t_a^c 00:04, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

My problems at Wikipedia became terminal (in part) when I reverted someone's edit when I shouldn't have done because it contained a source which was not (considered) a reliable source. I have spent some of the last week either removing quotes cited to websites which are deprecated or notorious citations used in improper places (the hardly mainstream The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion in articles about money or Judaism, for example). For that reason, I don't foresee potential problems, although I remember the two Wikiquote articles (one I created) which the Wikipedia administrator mentioned. I would be grateful if you were more specific as to your concerns. Philip Cross (talk) 07:21, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

I was concerned by the VFD's which were pushed into that state by quote removal. I am concerned by failure to notify creators / contributors and failure to find alternative quotes to replace the removed quotes which may have avoided the VfD in the first place. These are possible indicator's of a bissed approproach which may intentionally or otherwise targeted particular stances / viewpoints etc. I observe the earlier inappropriate Speedie's and and some minded the comments from rookie admin (currently on a wikibreak) may have been seen as an endorsement of the VFD whereas it possibly may, and I very much say may, have been more of a generic comment that VFD was more appropriate than Speedie in the case with scrutinising the details of the case. If a AGF there you were not aware of these possible implications. I'm finishing this after a 2 hour mad scramble and I'm in a hurry so I have very much not carefully gone over this answer as much as I should. In terms of the Ford/Zion/Jew things you do seem at a glance to be contributing towards a consensus but I haven't look in deep detail there. I am not prepared to contribute off-wiki by email. I must stress this is a rushed response and I may need to clarify or even retract a statement. But I'm to RL rushed for to get too drawn in. I'm had to waste too much energy on VFD notifications and W:WP:HEY work on your VFDs. Thankyou. -- DeirgeDel ^t_a^c 14:25, 16 March 2023 (UTC)