Talk:Islam

Systematic Vilifying of the Holy Scripture

Obviously, there are two things terribly wrong with this page:

1. The translations are completely preposterous, in fact they don't even match with their references linked to M.M. Pickthall's English translation.

2. Only those verses have been taken from the Holy Quran which highlight the Wrath of Allah, and as I said before... WITH WRONG TRANSLATIONS. There is no mention of the verses which exemplify the Mercies of Allah, as far as I can remember there are more verses of Allah's Mercy in the Holy Quran than His Wrath. This has to be balanced otherwise it is an obliviously wrongly biased page, and should be wiped off accordingly.

Please cite a single example with the "WRONG TRANSLATION." In fact, all translations on this page accurately convey the meaning of the originals, although they are often abridged. For example, Sura 2:17–18 is translated as

Allah has blinded the disbelievers.

The Pickthall translation you prefer reads

… Allah taketh away their light and leaveth them in darkness, where they cannot see,
Deaf, dumb and blind; and they return not.

Both accurately convey the meaning of the original:

مَثَلُهُمْ كَمَثَلِ الَّذِي اسْتَوْقَدَ نَاراً فَلَمَّا أَضَاءتْ مَا حَوْلَهُذَهَبَ اللّهُ بِنُورِهِمْ وَتَرَكَهُمْ فِي ظُلُمَاتٍ لاَّ يُبْصِرُونَ
صُمٌّبُكْمٌ عُمْيٌ فَهُمْ لاَ يَرْجِعُونَ

It is simply not true that these translations are wrong. Wikipedia can be edited freely—if you prefer Pickthall or Arberry, or wish to add the Qur'anic mercies, please feel free to do so. Finally, I don't understand how you could believe that simply writing down a list of Qur'anic passages amounts to a "Systematic Vilification of the Holy Scripture" unless you believe that the Qur'an itself is vile, which I hope is not true. أبو العلا المعري 16:54, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

3. There is one interesting quote from Mahatma Gandhi that I think is relevant to this article:

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

Both parties can find themselves here :)

racism

first of all, we all know that Islam today is not the most popular and liked religion, and in America it is hated. when people think of Islam or a Muslim, the first thing that comes to mind is terrorist and this is as sad as it gets. you wikipedia people call yourself neutral but you dare destroy the meaning of Islam by totally disfiguring the original meaning of these quotes from Allah. you do realise that your website is very popular, so please, do everyone a favor and help show the real message of Islam as opposed to trying to bring it down some more. YOU ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES seriously!!!! if you knew a thing or two about Islam, you would know that THE MEANING OF THESE QUOTES HAS BEEN LOST THROUGH THE TRANSLATION FROM ARABIC TO ENGLISH! you should change this quote page now! i don't have a source for this, just truth!　—This unsigned comment is by Joey (talk • contribs) .

I'm sorry to see you embarrassed, but Wikiquote is a collection of quotation, not the place for discussion. Regretfully I don't find no particular argument on this article. Please try to discuss more specific things rather than your general opinion about the subject. Thanks. --Aphaia 22:59, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

More then racism

These so called quotes fro Quran not only misinterprets the text, they are biased and in-comprehensive. There is much more to Quran than fire, hell, nonbelievers, and burning. Quraan is full of mercy, wisdom, and love.—This unsigned comment is by 24.86.180.243 (talk • contribs) .

Hi, we invite anyone to edit our website, including you! Please add appropriate quotes from good translation, and don't forget the book and verse. Thanks. --Aphaia 22:59, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Something must be done

With all due respect, this page is impossibly insulting. Please get someone to do something about it!

Hello!!

The quotes that commence the text seem rather harsh, and their meanings distorted in some. I feel this is an erroneous technique because somebody outside the religion coming to the page would surely be devastated and overwhelmed by the quotes, even though some are misinterpreted. I believe a more unbiased and balanced approach to the web page regarding the subject would be better. Thanks!

There is already a Quran on infidels article with the same contents.--Inesculent 20:15, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Dis-believers

Apparently no one what we do, people keep sticking the Quranic verses on dis-believers back in this article. Those verses of part of the Quran on infidels article.--Inesculent 06:48, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Quotes

The quotes in the sourced section represent a highly anti-Islam POV selection, against NPOV policy. I propose to delete many of them. BhaiSaab 18:56, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Merge from Moderate Islam

I support the merge. This is scarcely worth a separate page on WQ.--Cato 21:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

How is it possible?

How is it possible that the editors that review this site fail to see the inherent bias in the quotes provided? How about starting with primary sources, from an Islamic perspective (as opposed to an evangelical one)?