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Currently the main page shows the top ten Wikisource subdomains per article count. Some members of the community have manifested worries if that is the most adequate way to sort projects.

This page lists the pros and cons on some options. Edit it only if you have new options to propose or if you have additional pros and cons reasonings. Your comments, questions etc. see please the talk page. For the vote page, see /Vote.

"Article" count

  • Pros:
    • Automatic update within the wiki.
  • Cons:
    • Some subdomains have custom namespaces showing information about Author, Portals etc, some subdomains don't have and hosts those pages on the main namespace. The subdomains with no custom namespaces potentially can have more "article" pages than the ones with custom namespaces.
    • Is so easy to inflate the "article" count:
      • splitting large works on more than one "article" page; all Wikisources does it. A book with 30 chapters will result in at least 31 "articles". 30 books with 30 chapters will result on at least 930 "articles";
      • following the page breaks of modern editions of public domain works (the Spanish Wikisource does it on some works). A book with 300 pages will result in at least 301 "articles". 30 books containing 300 pages will result in 9030 "articles";
      • with mass bot addtions of content (the Portuguese Wikisource is importing a public domain dictionary with more than 100-200k entries, one entry per "article");
  • Pros:
  • Cons:
    • The length and number of words used per equivalent sentence is not invariant between languages.
  • Pros:
  • Cons:
    • Is so easy to inflate the ProofreadPage namespace using a bot to extract text from .djvu files (like the ones provided by the Internet Archive).
    • Not all documents are get from scanned printed books. Not all projects use built-in proofread extension for most of documents.

ProofreadPage Statistics - Proofread pages

  • Pros:
    • Reflect the real work of contributors.
  • Cons:
    • RTL bug; lack of OCR in many languages; plenty of other kinds of quality work not counted.
    • As above: Not all documents are get from scanned printed books. Not all projects use built-in proofread extension for most of documents. Therefore don't reflect the real work of contributors.

ProofreadPage Statistics - Validated pages

  • Pros:
    • Reflect the real work of contributors.
  • Cons:
    • As above: RTL bug; lack of OCR in many languages; plenty of other kinds of quality work not counted.
    • As above: Not all documents are get from scanned printed books. Not all projects use built-in proofread extension for most of documents. Therefore don't reflect the real work of contributors.
  • Pros:
  • Cons:
    • I wonder if the stats are really accurate. It surprises me that French language has more page views than English. Yann 18:34, 11 March 2009 (UTC)reply
    • Does not necessarily represent community and content for smaller languages.

MB's in the database

  • Pros:
    • Can be simply found in [1] (or measured as size of DB dump)
  • Cons:
    • Includes all (old) revisions of all pages, incl. talk pages etc.

Total size of articles

Eventually not only in main namespace, but in specified namespaces as Author or Page also.

  • Pros:
    • Size of all important content.
  • Cons:
    • How to simply find it?

Activity

(??? how to measure it???)

  • Pros:
  • Cons:

Complex criteria

Top ten Wikisources on Main Page would be selected combinating more ranks to one final rank. For each particular measure separate rank would be made, then from 0 to 10 points would be given to projects (1st place = 10 points, 11th and next places = 0 points). Finally, points would be summarized to final rank and first ten projects would be placed around the Wikisource logo on main page. If two or more projects in final rank would have the same sum of points, then one of statistics (or higher number of 1st, 2nd... places as in Formula 1) could be deciding.

This calculation would be performed 2–4 times in year. Particular measures could be:

  1. article count,
  2. average size of article (this rank effectively lowers influence of massive storing of very short articles as Portuguese Wikisource now does),
  3. one of proofread statistics,
  4. number of active (or very active) users, e.g. in last year,
  5. page views.
  • Pros:
    • Includes not only size (due to article count), but also quality (due to proofread statistics), activity (due to number of active users) and significancy (due to page views).
  • Cons:
    • Gives weight to things that have zero or close to zero value at some wikis: Proofread page, page views.
    • "Significance" is not a real "pro" because a highly significant collection of literature for a small language will still have far fewer views that an insignificant collection for a large language.

Moderately complex criteria

Top ten Wikisources on Main Page would be selected combinating more ranks to one final rank. For each particular measure separate rank would be made, then from 0 to 10 points would be given to projects (1st place = 10 points, 11th and next places = 0 points). Finally, points would be summarized to final rank and first ten projects would be placed around the Wikisource logo on main page. If two or more projects in final rank would have the same sum of points, then one of statistics (or higher number of 1st, 2nd... places as in Formula 1) could be deciding.

This calculation would be performed 2–4 times in year. Particular measures could be:

  1. article count,
  2. average size of article (this rank effectively lowers influence of massive storing of very short articles as Portuguese Wikisource now does),
  3. number of active (or very active) users, e.g. in last year,
  • Pros:
    • Calculates both content and community activity but without giving undue weight to any single factor that could be misleading (e.g. not only number of articles).

Notes

  1. See comments here