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Talk:List of television shows

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==Dialog formatting==

The subpage [[Talk:Television shows/Dialog formatting]] now holds the original '''Dialog formatting''' section, as it is ''extremely'' long, making it hard to notice any other postings on this page. It is still active. People are encouraged to review proposed formats, record their preferences, and even create new ones that they feel could be useful. — [[User:Jeffq|Jeff Q]] 10:34, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

==Tables of contents==
I really hate the automatically-generated tables of contents for long lists that stretch out many screen pages. I came up with a nice half-page custom solution for [[Blackadder]] that gets you to the right episode with one click and no scrolling. Unfortunately, it takes advantage of the Blackadder series' unique features:
* only four "series" (seasons) of six episodes each, plus three specials, making a small matrix;
* very abbreviation-friendly titles; and
* easy to create a complete table of contents that never needs updating.
My two favorite quote pages, [[MST3K]] and [[Buffy]], have 12x24 and 7x22 matrices, respectively, if completed, and have some very abbreviation-unfriendly titles. (MST3K is the worst, since its seasons vary from 7 to 24 episodes, making a very irregular matrix.) I'd appreciate any ideas on how to make a really useful but much smaller TOC for either of these. — [[User:Jeffq|Jeff Q]] 00:46, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

:Since I wrote the above, I created a compact custom table of contents for [[Buffy the Vampire Slayer|Buffy]], so now there are two variations to consider. The Buffy TOC uses some extreme title abbreviations in a rather crowded table, so it's not nearly as elegant as Blackadder, but it seems to suffice. I still have no reasonable solution for MST3K or any other such long-running show. — [[User:Jeffq|Jeff Q]] 16:29, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

== Article-last title format ==

Over at [[List of films]], there's a proposal to rearrange titles in the list to fit standard English indexing and sorting practice. (The article titles remain the same — in whatever form they are released.) This is the system in use by [[List of people]] as well. If no one has any objections, I plan to change the nine or so affected titles to article-last form to conform to this indexing system. — [[User:Jeffq|Jeff Q]] 06:24, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

: No objections from me. I do think this probably is better for those searching for links, and only a slight burden on editors. ~ [[User:Kalki|Kalki]] 19:53, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:: Done. — [[User:Jeffq|Jeff Q]] 22:24, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

==Adding shows without adding articles==
I'd like to suggest to the enthusiastic editors who keep adding shows that they restrain their enthusiasm until they actually collect a meaningful set of quotes from each show before they add the link here. The red links seem to be growing faster than the blue links! Please consider my own strategy:
# Collect a solid set of quotes from various sources, e.g., your own notes from watching the show, [http://www.imdb.com IMDb], [http://www.tvtome.com TV Tome], other sites you find through Google, printed references. (You're under no obligation to do so much research, of course. If you've got a few quotes that you just have to share, that's enough to start a page.)
# Organize and format them by whichever system you intend to present the information with. (There are many possibilities for organization and format. See [[Wikiquote:Templates#Formatting Guidelines|Formatting Guidelines]] for general Wikquote policy, and [[Talk:Television shows/Dialog formatting|Dialog formatting]] and [[Wikiquote talk:Templates#Films & TV Shows|the debate on film & TV show formats]] for TV-oriented suggestions. If all these suggestions are too much, just start with the basics: a bullet per quote. Edit any existing quote page [and Cancel when done!] to see how the Wiki formatting works.)
# Edit this [[Television shows]] article and add the show in alpha order, then click on "Show preview" (''not'' "Save page"). The proposed article update will now show a red link to your new article.
# Bring up a new browser window with that link to create the article, then paste your organized and formatted quote collection into it. Save it.
# Only then save the '''Television shows''' article changes.
This accomplishes three Good Things:
* It reduces the time between article listing and creation to zero. (Actually negative, since you finish creating the page before you save its link on the list.)
* It encourages you to create a robust set of quotes ''before'' you tease Wikiquote readers with the upcoming TV show article. ☺
* It makes the '''Television shows''' list look less unfinished. (Practically speaking, it will always be unfinished, but fewer broken links looks more "professional".)
Anyway, it's just a thought. Use it or ignore it. ☺ — [[User:Jeffq|Jeff Q]] 23:02, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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:Okay, now it's really getting out of hand. The useful links are getting buried among all the broken ones. Anyone can add titles to this page; Wikiquote needs people to create the actual articles. It takes virtually ''no'' effort to add a title to this page once one has compiled enough quotes to create a decent article for a TV show.

:Unless people strenuously object, I am planning to remove ALL of the titles without existing articles on Saturday (18 December). There is no advantage to having them sitting there and obscuring the useful links. — [[User:Jeffq|Jeff Q]] 06:54, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

::I think it's better to have lots of red links: it'll lead to many more contributions when people serendipitously notice shows they like. Wq is still young, and I think this is a good way to increase its info. If we can get the kind of momentum that wikipedia has, it could lead to wq becoming '''the''' place for (at least) tv/film quotes (instead of imdb, who sold out), which would then be easily editable and under the '''GFDL'''. I think only shows that in the opinion of editors won't have good quotes to list, like ''The baldy man'' or ''Mr. Bean'', should be removed. — [[User:Jeandré|Jeandré]], 2004-12-16t19:16z

:::In principle, I agree with you, which is why I haven't raised the point before. But lately a spate of anonymous users seem to be more interested in adding names to the list than attempting to provide the quotes that are what might make Wikiquote useful enough to compete with IMDb. It makes sense for IMDb, a movie database, to have movies without quotes; it makes no sense here. Yes, red links ''may'' encourage people to add pages, but the blizzard of red links runs counter to a basic expectation: it may be easy to contribute, but to be useful, it should still be ''easi'''er''''' to read.

:::I don't want to discourage contributions from anonymous users, as I've noticed that a considerable number of quote pages (many good ones, too, I think) are created and extended by them. But I want to encourage them (and named users, as well!) to actually ''do'' something useful, not just show off their knowledge of TV show titles. If people were just adding the names in preparation to add their pages, I wouldn't complain, but there are links that have been red for weeks or even months. I thought about removing only the old ones, but it's very time-consuming to determine what is old with the current History mechanism (especially when people don't note what they added or changed in the Summary). I decided to issue an ultimatum primarily to get people to wake up to the problem of lack of meaningful contributions. — [[User:Jeffq|Jeff Q]] 20:18, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

::::I agree with [[User:Jeffq|you (Jeff Q)]], this sea of red links are flooding the useful pages - while I see the valid point [[User:Jeandré|Jeandré]] is making, and it's why I propose a page called <nowiki> [[Television shows/contribute]]</nowiki> where users can browse the RED links and see a show they like and '''Contribute''' - we need more of this going on.

::::Before I get carried away, I agree with both of you that wikiquote can offer to users someting that IMDb cannot, and this we should expand on - personnaly, I see no reason why wikiquote can't be THE PLACE to find quotations (damn atleast in the top 10). I will keep in touch, because I am attempting to have wikiquote climb in the Web Rankings... PEACE ~ [[User:RoboAction|RoboAction]] 06:03, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:::::I'm still not convinced that we should delete or subpage the red links, but since I haven't been able to convince Q and R — how about a compromise: moving all the red links below the blue links in their own alpha list? It still means regular maintenance, but seems to me more inviting than a subpage.

:::::Yes, no, none of the above?[[User:Jeandré| — Jeandré]], 2004-12-18t16:10z

:::::: I personally do favor the creation of secondary pages of lists, that include active links and suggested pages, but ''without active links being made '''until''' pages are about to be created, or already have been''. As I have mentioned recently in a couple of other places, I am at work on such a page for people, and if others think this is a good idea, such pages for films and shows would also provide a large listing of suggestions, and yet not a place where people would be inclined to casually create pages of trivial worth, or mere vandalizations, because of the seas of red links. ~ [[User:Kalki|Kalki]] 19:30, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC) <br> P.S. Such potentially large pages, should of course be divided into convenient sections, for easier editing, as most of the larger list pages are, and I think this should be done even if the initial pages are rather small. ~ [[User:Kalki|Kalki]] 19:36, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:[[User:RoboAction|RoboAction]] has implemented the subpage strategy for [[List of films]], and is finding, I suspect, the need to frequently shift titles between the pages (in both directions) somewhat of a nuisance. Unless folks object, I'll implement, in the next day or two, [[User:Jeandré|Jeandré]]'s suggestion of splitting the '''Television shows''' page into sections of existing titles and to-be-created titles. I'll also add a preface like the one in "List of films" which will (hopefully) make it clearly to inexperienced Wikiquotians how to contribute, reducing the need for maintenance oversight. With both versions implemented, we can better compare the pros and cons of each. — [[User:Jeffq|Jeff Q]] 08:13, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

::I just made the change. I know I didn't wait very long for comments, but I'll be happy to revert this (and re-add any titles added in the interim) if people are unhappy with this change. Give it a spin for a while. — [[User:Jeffq|Jeff Q]] 02:30, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

== Creating new pages -- discussion and vote notice ==

Many people are having problems creating a new page. There has been some progress in this area (some FAQs posted with various tricks, help page failure allows starting a page with one click, etc.), but virtually no documentation regarding it. Input box is a new mediawiki feature intended to make article creation more streamlined, as well as helping create correctly boiler-plated articles. I have started a discussion, and a vote, at [[Help talk:Starting a new page]], and I urge everyone interested to join it. ~ [[User:MosheZadka|MosheZadka]] [[User talk:MosheZadka|(Talk)]] 19:47, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

== G4 ==
Dear Fellow Editors,
[[Wikiquote]] is in need of a new category and a variety of TV shows on the G4 network. TV shows like "Cheat!" and "Attack of the Show". PLEASE help me and other people make this happen.--[[User:WikiAlexC|WikiAlexC]] 22:38, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I want Charlie's Angels (TV series)!!! --[[User:85.96.225.107|85.96.225.107]] 08:26, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Please, "Have Gun Will Travel" [[User:161.184.42.83|161.184.42.83]] 22:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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== List of tv series ==

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== Actriz ==

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Template talk:Checkcopyright

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== Establishing a Wikiquote editorial board? ==

I find the following line in the current template quite troubling:
:''Please do not remove this tag from the talk page of the article until it has been checked by a user familiar with the fair use provisions of U.S. copyright law and edited down if necessary.''
This smacks of establishing a ''de facto'' Wikiquote editorial board that has the authority to judge whether an article violates copyright. This is completely against established Wikimedia Foundation practices. I recognize that Wikiquote has some special copyright concerns, but they must be addressed within the context of the Foundation's practices, and must accommodate the editing structure of its projects. We must either rephrase this sentence or remove it. ~ [[User:Jeffq|Jeff Q]] [[User talk:Jeffq|(talk)]] 23:00, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:There is no editorial board nor does it suggest there would be one. It merely requests (politely, at that) that unless someone who knows a little bit about the law in question has seen the page, the note should not be removed. It does not imply anything outside of the ordinary -- it is just a small line to encourage users who aren't aware of the fair use provision or how it works to not play with the template. --[[User:Fastfission|Fastfission]] 00:56, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

:: This bit does have a rather ''expertist'' tone. It may have been appropriate when we were first grappling with the issue, but now that guidance has been developed at [[WQ:LOQ]] we can switch from a purely proscriptive message to a prescriptive one that invites participation. I propose replacing the last sentence with:
::::'''You can help''' by trimming the article according to the guidelines at [[Wikiquote:Limits on quotations]]. In the meantime, please do not add more quotes or remove this tag until the article has been brought in line with the [[w:fair use|fair use]] provisions of [[w:U.S. copyright law|U.S. copyright law]].
:: Unless anyone objects, I will change the template accordingly. ~ [[User:Ningauble|Ningauble]] 15:41, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

::: I just realized that, having taken a wikibreak after posting above, I completely forgot about it and failed to follow through. In light of the primary emphasis on ''quality'' in the ''[[Wikiquote:Limits on quotations|Limits on quotations]]'' guideline (stated first and discussed at greatest length in the lede rationale), I no longer think the change I proposed is ideal. The template should not only eschew expertism, I think it should avoid giving the impression that copyright is the only reason to tag an article for trimming. One could create awfully huge (i.e. hugely awful) pages without much risk of being sued for copyright infringement. ~ [[User:Ningauble|Ningauble]] 17:31, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

==page location==
should there be some sort of guideline where it can be used (eg: only on the talk pages)? <small>—This [[Wikiquote:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment is by [[User:121.45.255.179|121.45.255.179]] ([[User talk:121.45.255.179|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/121.45.255.179|contribs]]) 04:10, 18 August 2007.</small>
:I came here to ask about that, having found this template from following some link that is currently appearing at the top of every page. I see that [http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Category:Pages_which_need_their_copyright_status_checked the category] has mostly talk pages but also several that are main pages, and I wonder would it be appropriate for me to move the "checkcopyright" template to the talk pages? [[User:Stratford490|Stratford490]] 20:16, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::The tag should be placed on the page's Talk page. Quoting from [[Wikiquote:Copyrights]], "If you believe that a given article has too many quotes or excerpts from a copyrighted work on it, please add the text <nowiki>{{checkcopyright}}</nowiki> to its talk page. This will cause it to go into a queue for review and possible revision." ~ [[User:UDScott|UDScott]] 20:30, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Thank you. I've started moving a few that were on the wrong pages. [[User:Stratford490|Stratford490]] 21:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

== Original intention of this template... and the {{tl|copyvio}} template ==

In 2007 [[User:LrdChaos]] explained the intention of this template, see [[Category_talk:Pages_which_need_their_copyright_status_checked|here]]:

:: ... I created the {{tl|copyvio}} template for cases of obvious copyright violation, usually those cases when a page was nothing more than a copy of a website or similar. This was in response to a series of pages being VFD-nominated as copyvio and blanked; I adapted the Wikipedia copyvio template so that we could provide a consistent message for when pages are blanked as copyvio. On the other hand, it's been my thought to use {{tl|checkcopyright}} when a page simply has acquired so many quotes that it's a possible copyright violation, but isn't a direct copy of a source (that is, pages that quote more of a book/film/TV show/etc. than can be considered fair use, but still isn't a blatant copyright violation). I've seen the distinction as, {{tl|copyvio}} is for obvious, blatant, copy/paste copyvio, while {{tl|checkcopyright}} is for pages that simply are overquoting.
:: While it would certainly be possible to combine the two (and their categories), I think we'd lose an important distinction between the two classes. (I find it generally easier to trim down an "organically-developed" copyvio (which I'd have tagged with {{tl|checkcopyright}}, and often have some level of formatting) than a copy/paste of a web page copyvio (which I'd have blanked and tagged {{tl|copyvio}}), and are often basically raw dumps of data). —[[User:LrdChaos|LrdChaos]] ([[User talk:LrdChaos|talk]])

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